[Assam] Fwd: [asom] Re: Press Release on 'Fast unto Death'

Chan Mahanta cmahanta at charter.net
Fri May 11 11:28:50 PDT 2007


>Let ULFA play down the word "sovereignty" and I can see the 
>possibility of a meeting between GOI >and ULFA.

Heh-heh!  Your idea has been tried, if you forgot. It is like calling 
for ULFA to surrender, or else! But  what has it produced so far?

Too bad Assam intelligentsia , un-affected by the status-quo,  is 
only too willing to play the stonewalling game of the other 
un-affected entity: GoI.











At 11:12 AM -0700 5/11/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
>O'Mahanta,
>Read again the email that you wrote. Right there one can see how the 
>ULFA wives'  demand for information about their husbands is being 
>used by ULFA and its supporters to create a platform for ULFA's 
>demands.
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>I agree with you that a dialog needs to start between GOI and ULFA 
>leaders. But these devious means will not make it happen. Let ULFA 
>play down the word "sovereignty" and I can see the possibility of a 
>meeting between GOI and ULFA. I do not think even ULFA leaders 
>believe that sovereignty is a reality but they continue to play the 
>game because they stand to gain from it.
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>Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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>  >So, go figure who is using these poor victims as a front.
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>*** First off, one should ask if these women are able to articulate 
>their demands  and write a piece, as was done?
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>One might think they are not. So , they needed help.  Somebody DID 
>put that help forward, put the write-up together and forwarded it to 
>various people. I received it from someone who shares my views on 
>such matters.
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>*** Secondly, getting the information on the missing husbands DOES 
>NOT solve the problem for their families. Or does it? What would 
>Dilip Deka do if he were in the position of the ULFA wives? Once he 
>got that info, he would heave a sigh of relief and move on?
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>So a dose of ordinary REALITY is useful therefore in determining WHAT NEXT.
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>One might think , therefore, that UNLESS the entire PROBLEM is 
>resolved, the ULFA wives' /families' plight would NOT END.
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>Therefore a reasonable person might wonder  HOW to bring the 
>conflict to an end.
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>*** To end the conflict, there is ONLY ONE credible means, as has 
>been abundantly clear for decades.
>That is thru a political settlement.
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>Oh I know there are those who would WISH ULFA away.
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>And those who would settle for nothing less than an Indian military victory.
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>But the thinking person can ignore those alternatives.
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>*** How to achieve such a settlement?  Can that happen WITHOUT a 
>ULFA/GoI dialogue?
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>Take a wild guess.
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>*** How could that be brought about?
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>Again take a wild guess. Failing which,  consider the suggestion 
>laid out in that petition, obviously crafted by the EXPLOITATIVE 
>entities that riles our friends so.
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>At 6:20 AM -0700 5/11/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
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>>From the email below - "Incidentally, the April 6 forwarded appeal 
>>was neither from MASS nor from Assamwatch UK, as far as  I can 
>>tell. It was an appeal from/or on behalf of the fasting ladies."
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>"On behalf of" is what bothers me. Who made the appeal on behalf of 
>the ladies? Looks to me either ULFA or an ULFA affiliated group 
>inserted the "release of the leaders" in the appeal.
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>If the wives of the missing ULFA men are only in search of the 
>whereabouts of their men, and if they prepared the appeal 
>themselves, there would be no reason to include other demands in 
>their appeal.
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>So, go figure who is using these poor victims as a front.
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>Dilip Deka
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>Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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>Ram:
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>It was my bad . You are right about what I forwarded on April 6.
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>But THAT was not what I have been responding to during the last 
>three days or so. It was about the post from assamwatch UK, which 
>was taken issue with by 'asom' list members. I don't recall seeing 
>either MASS( brought into the equation by Dilip with his acronym) 
>or assamwatch uk, both HR orgs., mixing up the two issues.
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>And on the April 6 post, I made the following, specific introduction:
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>"I would like to think, assamnetters would support the struggle of 
>these ladies who are seeking information on their husbands' 
>whereabouts, if they are dead or alive; regardless of whether they 
>support or sympathize with ULFA ?
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>It will also be interesting to hear how netters feel about the GoI's 
>refusal to submit to the High Court's orders on the matter."
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>If I remember correctly netters gave the request a WIDE BERTH :-).
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>Incidentally, the April 6 forwarded appeal was neither from MASS nor 
>from Assamwatch UK, as far as  I can tell. It was an appeal from/or 
>on behalf of the fasting ladies.
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>At 3:14 PM -0600 5/10/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
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>I will take this one portion of your response right now. For the 
>rest, I will have to respond later.
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>Me: >>The best thing to do (for those who are really interested in 
>helping these ulfa wives) is NOT to bring in
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>  >>unrelated demands like bring ulfa to the table for tals, or 
>release so & so >from jail etc.
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>*** That is an entirely different issue. Neither Assamwatch nor MASS 
>have attempted to mix the two.
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>At least I don't recall seeing any such thing. It is of your making. 
>And of those who were railing against
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>assamwatch's efforts to shame India in front of the civilized world 
>by publicizing GoIs despicable stonewalling on the matter.
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>It was the making of those who were questioning why these women 
>should be given that info. or questioning
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>their judgement and/or motives in marrying ULFA cadres in the most 
>infantile manner one can imagine.
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>I have seen some pretty despicable things from our fellow men.
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>But speculating on these women's motives as to WHY they married the 
>men they did was about
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>one of the lowest I have seen thus far.
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>Below is a relevant portion of what you forwarded on April 6th
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>They demanded that:
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>(a)     the custodial disappearances of their husbands and others 
>following the infamous 'Operation All-Clear' in December 2003 be 
>addressed by the highest authorities of the land;
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>(b)      peaceful resolution to the Indo-Assam conflict; and
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>(c)     the unconditional release of the ULFA leaders in jail, which 
>remains a key to ensuring a just resolution to the impasse in the 
>possibility of talks between the government of India and the armed 
>opposition group. 
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>These three demands simply reiterate the basic tenets of democracy 
>and justice in the quest for a peaceful resolution to armed 
>conflict. The protesting women are demanding answers from India's 
>political classes who tend to forget that their celebrated democracy 
>does not extend to the people of Assam, Nagaland, Manipur, Tripura 
>and other states of the so-called Northeast. 
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>So, all signatories (that you appealed to) would be effectively 
>signing for (b) & (c) above EVEN if they may have agreed to some 
>portions of (a) above.
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>IMHO, (b) & (c) and portions of (a) have nothing to do with any 
>resolutions that these women seek regarding their husbands' 
>whereabouts.
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>So, it is no figment of my imagination and nor did I make it up as 
>you indicate.
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>  >But speculating on these women's motives as to WHY they married 
>the men they did was about
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>I DID NOT make any such statement. Don't know who did.
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