[Assam] End this disease called ULFA

vox populi axomiya at yahoo.com
Tue May 15 09:32:44 PDT 2007


Hi Jyotirmoy,

You are hitting Chandanbabu real hard; where it hurts.


CM and MM behaves like paid agents of the
Bangladeshis. In whole expanse of lungiwalas, they see
no design. It's like closing the eyes to ward off a
tiger, thinking, the tiger will not see if they close
their eyes.

Moreover, I found out, none of both Mr. MM and CM's
future generations are going to stay in the
independent Oxom, they are inciting our 'burbok' boys
to fight for.

-VP

--- Jyotirmoy Sharma <jsharma at iinet.net.au> wrote:

> I believe that Ram has explained the points very
> aptly.  Just adding  
> a few comments.
> 
> > >*** Is this for a fact or a demonstration  of 
> profound ignorance  
> > of modern history?
> > >Would you like to explain?
> 
> I do not hear the Nagas, Manipuris blowing up their
> own population in  
> the name of freedom struggle. They may have had
> conflicts within  
> their groups and may have fought and killed rival
> group members but  
> never have they targeted the general population.
> Would you still believe in their cause and their
> means had you lost a  
> family member in one of their indiscriminate blasts?
> 
> 
> > > I suspect you and JS intended SOME of the ULFA
> leaders, didn't  
> > you? Assuming that  was what  it was, let me ask
> you this: If it  
> > were you, Ram >or JS, in the position of those
> ULFA leaders, what  
> > would you do? Play STUPID and get arrested or get
> erased in some   
> > encounter, real or fake? Is >this some kind of a
> question to make  
> > the ULFA leaders look  like 'cowards'? If it is,
> do you think it is  
> > working?
> Even in India's fight for independence we have had
> true  
> revolutionaries who  may have gone out of the
> country to seek  help  
> to fight the enemy( British ) but they have come
> back to the country  
> to fight for the cause they believed in. In ULFA's
> case the leaders  
> have simply vanished from the battle zone and
> surrendered themselves  
> to become pawns of Bangladeshi agents.
> 
> > >- They seek whereabouts of missing ULFA members,
> what about all the
> > >people they have killed. Are they going to give
> the reasons ?
> >
> > *** Another abjectly dumb question again. These
> are people fighting  
> > and dying for a cause.
> Mr Mahanta, try telling that to someone who has lost
> a loved one by  
> ULFA's guns or their blasts.
> It is not hard to realize that there is no "cause"
> they are fighting  
> for. The ULFA leaders are prominent Bangladeshi
> citizens now and  
> living up their life with extortion money while
> their lower rungs are  
> dodging bullets, army and the people in general.
> 
> Mr Mahanta, you would do well to realize the ground
> facts. The Bodos,  
> Karbis, Dimasas, Bengalis( from the Barak valley) do
> not support the  
> ULFA nor have they given them the onus to act/speak
> on their behalf.  
> A few Assamese may still feel for the terrorists but
> they are a dying  
> breed. I would have thought there is more support
> for the outfit  
> among the Assamese citizens in the US, the lack of
> response to my  
> questions seem to suggest otherwise.
> 
> J.Sharma
> 
> 
> On 15/05/2007, at 9:40 AM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> 
> > C'da
> >
> > >*** Is this for a fact or a demonstration  of 
> profound ignorance  
> > of modern history?
> > >Would you like to explain?
> >
> > Let me try!
> >
> > First of, the ulfa cannot really be considered
> "revolionaries". A  
> > revolution (Like the French etc) are a mass-scale
> uprising of some  
> > sort against an establishment. The ulfa (as some
> would like to  
> > elevate) is nowhere close to that lable
> >
> > So, in that context, modern revolutions have
> always been about  
> > "protecting the masses" against tyrants. In the
> Assam context, can  
> > you give some stark examples where such a thing
> has happened? And  
> > yes, C'da why is these "home-grown" revoltionaries
> hell bent on  
> > killing and looting from Assamese people (and
> don't forget Dhemaji)  
> > - now there was a great example of your
> revolutionaries giving up  
> > blood & treasure (of course, it matters little
> that blood spilled  
> > was not theirs).
> >
> > > I suspect you and JS intended SOME of the ULFA
> leaders, didn't  
> > you? Assuming that  was what  it was, let me ask
> you this: If it  
> > were you, Ram >or JS, in the position of those
> ULFA leaders, what  
> > would you do? Play STUPID and get arrested or get
> erased in some   
> > encounter, real or fake? Is >this some kind of a
> question to make  
> > the ULFA leaders look  like 'cowards'? If it is,
> do you think it is  
> > working?
> >
> > If the 'leaders' were holed up in B'desh and
> making war plans/ 
> > strategic plans against the big, bad ogre called
> India, it may have  
> > carried some semblence of resptability - but to
> hole up elsewhere,  
> > goad/egg other to the battles, and all the while
> amass huge  
> > personal wealth, (as reported by the US think tank
> - Stratfor.  
> > com), getting help from BD intel and ISI (who will
> just as easily  
> > slit an Assamese throat as they would an "Indian")
> is beyond me.
> >
> > So, now this "holing up" in Bangladesh is really a
> strategic plan -  
> > could have knocked me out with a feather! How
> could I have missed that
> >
> > >First off, if 'THEY' were residing in a foreign
> land, why is it  
> > that India and Indians claim
> >  >ULFA is fighting in Assam? Isn't that a
> contradiction?
> >
> > I am just trying here - don't know exactly what JS
> meant.
> >
> > Why is this a contradiction - the leaders stay in
> BD - making the  
> > big war plans, while the "low-level" cadres do the
> dirty job in Assam.
> >
> > >*** Another abjectly dumb question again. These
> are people  
> > fighting and dying for a cause.
> > >You may not agree with their cause.
> >
> > We have all been hearing about this big cause for
> a long time. Then  
> > why is that the whole of Assam have  NOT joined
> > and or signed on the dotted line? Do you know why?
> >
> > >That is how it works in a violent CONFLICT. That
> is WHY it is a  
> > violent CONFLICT.
> >
> > Whew! Now that somehow makes us all feel better.
> Of course, all the  
> > people of Assam gave the green signal for ULFA to
> go violent and  
> > now it (the ulfa) acts as the sole torch bearer
> for God & country.
> >
> > One question, if these 'revs' are NOT even able to
> fight from their  
> > home base (that they are forced to go to another
> country to do so),  
> > what odds do you, as a pragmatist, give them for
> any kind of win?
> >
> > Even the country these people take refuge in (BD)
> is not able to  
> > take on the bad boy on the block (India)  what are
> the chances for  
> > the "revs". Do you think perhaps, that there is no
> fun for them to  
> > end this 'insurgency Kamadhenu'. Whatever will
> they do if this all  
> 
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