[Assam] End this disease called ULFA

Ram Sarangapani assamrs at gmail.com
Tue May 15 11:45:25 PDT 2007


C'da

> >Is the Ulfa invoking Lachit here?
> > *** Good question.  See , now you are thinking :-).

I know Jesus & Lachit don't actually go together here . All I can say at
this response is "Jesus!"  - and  in this day & age?

--Ram





On 5/15/07, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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> Ram:
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> >Is the Ulfa invoking Lachit here?
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> *** Good question.  See , now you are thinking :-).
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> c-da
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> PS: Also remember  the American Civil War? The British war of the Roses?
The
> French Revolution? The Russian Revolution? The Spanish Civil War? The
> Chinese Long March? Vietnam? South Africa? The Congo? Sri Lanka? Kashmir?
> Nepal? The Khalistan revolt? The Sikh Pogrom post Indira Gandhi's slaying?

> Gujarat/Godhra ? Nandigram?
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> At 12:14 PM -0600 5/15/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> >But the fact remains that does the people of Assam deserve to be killed
by
> their own kin and kith.
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> Nayan and JS have brought out the essence of the conversation here.
> Yes, this question has to be answered. The blame cannot be shifted to the
> army or some such entity. The ULFA and its friends have focibily taken
over
> the "prosperity" of the Oxomiya people. Then it is they who should answer
> this question.
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> How are they going "free Assamese" people by killing any Assamese is in
> their way.
> Is the Ulfa invoking Lachit here?
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> And I am pretty much certain, these and other questions will just remain
as
> such - not answered-ever.
>
> Ram
>
> On 5/15/07, Nayanjyoti Medhi <nayanjyoti.medhi at gmail.com> wrote:
> C Da,
> Pranaam!
> Sorry to butt in like I always do but what Mr. Jyotirmoy Sharma has
written
> is something that needs to be answered (We never got our answers, although
> we put some relevant question, but let us not get distracted from the core
> issue). As usual, his questions will remain in the background and the
> argument will go somewhere else and get personal like it always does in
this
> forum. What Vox Populi (I am not aware of his/her real nomenclature) has
put
> forward as hi/her view is also not far from truth (the reasons maybe
> different though). But the fact remains that does the people of Assam
> deserve to be killed by their own kin and kith. Maybe they do.
> C Da, Is it not time for you to come back to your motherland and face the
> questions put by so and so .... head on.
>
> Regards,
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> Nayan
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> On 5/15/07, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net > wrote:
> Ram:
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> >All you are reduced to doing is taunting ULFA or ULFA sympathizers, or
> mouthing
> >off bravado-laden but meaningless slogans.   One would think >something
is
> missing here.
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> >Yes, that does happen, like it does often with  the GOI/GOA and India.
> >But, I have often said that if the ulfa or some other group was really,
> really >fighting for a cause, and with all sincereity, I would be the
first
> one to at >least give them the respect they deserve (even if I do not
agree
> with their >cause).
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> *** Surely YOUR support or for that matter of others in your camp is NOT
> what ULFA has been surviving all these decades. Obviously it is from the
> support of those who you do not see or prefer not to recognize when you
see
> them. Thus your definition of ULFA's 'sincerity' is quite irrelevant to
the
> resolution of the conflict. IF you and others are SEEKING a resolution to
> the conflict, then the question would be WHAT are you contributing to its
> resolution?
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> Again IF you believe the arguments that you proffer here, a regurgitation
of
> the same old same old, or recommendations of JS or the 'wah-wah' from
behind
> the bushes from whomever or the taunting of ULFA  would be bringing the
> conflict to an end, then I have to guess you have something else coming
:-).
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> BTW, the label was an illustration, to drive home a point, to illustrate
how
> it does nothing.
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> At 9:57 AM -0600 5/15/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> O' C'da
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> Sorry to have you rankled so much - not my intention, but some of lousy my
> traits just slip by.
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> The labels revolution, or revolutionary are not inventions of JS, me or
you.
> The ULFA and many of its sympathizers use these terms whenever they feel
its
> good to use them. Even the ulfa "newsletter" freely uses it.
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> The insurgency they mount is often confused with a revoltion by some
people.
> So, that is why it is important to separate issues here. We don;t want to
> groups (which don't deserve it) an "aura" status do we?
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> >Imagine me assigning a label on you as, say, an Indian patriot
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> C'da - is this discussion about me? Didn't  realize that. But if you feel
> better,
> you could always label the GOI/Desi-demokracy, and anything else (if you
> haven't already). And if that doesn't work, feel free to label me - these
> days, I have grown such a tough skin (like our Rhinos there) - nothing
seems
> to stick. :) :)
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> >*** What you see as looting, could be presented by ULFA as TAXING, tax
that
> the payer does not pay to what is fancied to be the 'legitimate'
> >government.  What the two-book-keeping entities do not pay to GoI, goes
to
> ULFA, who employs those left unemployed by India's
> rob-the-poor->masses-to-enrich-the-few-economy, keeps the
> economy running by buying what it needs to feed the soldiers.   I hope you
> read the World Bank >report on black-money's corrosive effect on the
Indian
> economy.  Further more  on the looting front, how do you see the Indian
> elected reps' role, >in looting the treasury?
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> Here, there are a couple of things that tell me my edumacation is wrong.
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> One is that "tax" is usually levied by an authority (government civic body
> etc). It is so levied, so that things that they do with the money
collected
> will supposedly help the community as a whole.
> I never knew a tax could also be used to line pockets for personal use
(and
> not much else)
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> Two. Yes, there are many bureaucrats/babus/ministers in the GOI and GOA
who
> will rob th tax-paying public blind. But your justification has really
> caught me unawares (to say the least).
>
> You imply that ulfa collects money from tax-cheats who don't pay their
share
> to the GOI.
> It then takes that excess money, employs the unemeployed, sends  them to
> battle royal (from whence they often don't come back).
>
> Now, that is something. The GOI, I am sure is also glad that the ulfa is
> helping it keep these tax-cheaters in line.
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> > Further more  on the looting front, how do you see the Indian elected
> reps' role, in looting the treasury?
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> Very bad, rank bad. So, your solution to this vexing corruption problem is

> what, create another corrupt organization to emulate the dregs of GOI? But
> this time, make sure this orgnization is also violent?
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> >Had Assam Govt. leaders NOT attempted to prove that uLFA had no teeth by
> putting these children of Dhemaji in harms way,
> >in spite of warnings by ULFA not to hold those parades, this tragedy
could
> not have happened.
>
> C'da - I don't know whether to laugh or cry here?  You are telling us,
that
> since the GOA DID NOT follow ULFA's dikats, the children, men and women of
> Assam have to pay the price. After all - what is the Govt.?  - it is ALSO
> made up of the kerani, that LP school mastor or the corner traffic
> policeman. These people unfortunately also have children. And if alll
these
> people and the GOA don't follow them dikats - then Offf with their heads?
> And since the ulfa has the guns and bombs, the GOA will of course have to
> tell its employees and the public to stay away whenever the ulfa demands
it.
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> >Do you see a difference between GoI and ULFA?
>
> Yes, I do and so do most other people. We see, that however bad the
GOA/GOI
> turns out to be, it is still whom the public at large elected (even in a
> flawed system). And most of all the GOI has the legal and legitimate
> standing - that organizations like the ulfa don't. Imagine the ULFA
running
> as a Govt. in Assam. If they don't like you - they just get rid of you, if
> you more wealth than some its members, they will just come at night and
> demand you pay them. And of course, you dare not question them. I know,
you
> would love that kind of govt. setup:):)
>  For the rest of us, we prefer democracies - even if they are not perfect.
>
> >All you are reduced to doing is taunting ULFA or ULFA sympathizers, or
> mouthing
> >off bravado-laden but meaningless slogans.   One would think >something
is
> missing here.
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> Yes, that does happen, like it does often with  the GOI/GOA and India.
> But, I have often said that if the ulfa or some other group was really,
> really fighting for a cause, and with all sincereity, I would be the first
> one to at least give them the respect they deserve (even if I do not agree

> with their cause).
>
> Today, we have a scenario, where such a group is often defended on gounds
> such as:
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> Well - there are other corrupt people too
> Well - the army also kills people, so let these groups also kill - you
know,
> more the merrier.
> Well - they are brave, but they do need to save their own skins (run away,
> and live to sneak up and fight another day)
> Well- they do not have any plan now or for forever for Assam. And if they
do
> - its a big secret
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> Take care,
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> --Ram
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> On 5/15/07, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net > wrote:
> Ram:
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> >First of, the ulfa cannot really be considered "revolionaries". A
> revolution (Like the French etc) are a >mass-scale uprising of some sort
> against an establishment. The ulfa (as some would like to elevate) is
> >nowhere close to that lable
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> *** It was not *I* who assigned that label and then attempted to demolish
> it. You can or JS can or any old fool can arbitrarily assign a label to
> anyone, then demolish it, couldn't they? But what VALUE would that have?
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> Imagine me assigning a label on you as, say, an Indian patriot, and then
go
> on to tell the world that you are not an Indian to begin with, that you
are
> an American. That you claim you are are an Assamese, but  by parental
> ethnicity you are really a Tamil.
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> But what value would such an argument have ? Would I be wrong in surmising

> that it would be zero, zit, nada?
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> >And yes, C'da why is these "home-grown" revoltionaries hell bent on
killing
> and looting from Assamese people (and don't forget Dhemaji) - now there
was
> a great example of your revolutionaries giving up blood & treasure (of
> course, it matters little that blood spilled was not theirs).
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> *** What you see as looting, could be presented by ULFA as TAXING, tax
that
> the payer does not pay to what is fancied to be the 'legitimate'
government.
>  What the two-book-keeping entities do not pay to GoI, goes to ULFA, who
> employs those left unemployed by India's
> rob-the-poor-masses-to-enrich-the-few-economy, keeps the
> economy running by buying what it needs to feed the soldiers.   I hope you

> read the World Bank report on black-money's corrosive effect on the Indian
> economy.  Further more  on the looting front, how do you see the Indian
> elected reps' role, in looting the treasury?
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> They are WORSE offenders, because they steal wearing that robe of
> respectability as the people's reps., on the sly. But I see no outrage in
> that from the 'fair and balanced crowd',or demands to send them to prison,

> or to send their sympathizers to prison. In fact I will not be surprised
if
> the scions of some of these thieves in white are not right here amongst us
> urging ULFA sympathizers to be sent to prison. We surely know that most
> everybody who holds some important position in Indian govts. have a sopn
or
> daughter or a close relative in some western countries as immigrant,
> 'green-card holder' or citizens or H1Bs. So much for their faith in their
> nation.
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> Yes, Dhemaji is a stigma to ULFA. They should not have done that, IF it
WAS
> indeed ULFA who did that deliberately. But parties to warfare do terrible
> things, sometimes willfully, at other times inadvertently. IF I remember
> correctly you took great pride in the Indian military's repeated
OOpses  on
> its civilian killings in fake encounters, as if those were slips, that
never
> happened before, or never will in the future.
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> Do you see a difference between GoI and ULFA?  And if GOI can do no better
> than ULFA, where does its apologists get that  halo of 'holier-than-thou',

> to sport?
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> In fact GOI  and its stooges, Assam govts. past or present have actively
> contributed to such mindless violence. Had Assam Govt. leaders NOT
attempted
> to prove that uLFA had no teeth by putting these children of Dhemaji in
> harms way, in spite of warnings by ULFA not to hold those parades, this
> tragedy could not have happened. Not to justify it however. But I don't
> recall hearing from the 'fair and balanced crowd'  a word on WHO was
> EXPLOITING these children.
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> Then there is this other  thing that the thoughtful should not avoid
> considering: When the Indian army operations lead to separating the
> leadership from the operating elements, it creates an environment of
private
> entrepreneurship by inexperienced and poorly educated rank-and-file
manning
> the battlefronts. How do you know that it was sanctioned by ULFA
leadership,
> and not impromptu action by someone at location? That is war for you.
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> >We have all been hearing about this big cause for a long time. Then why
is
> that the whole of Assam >have  NOT joined  and or signed on the dotted
line?
> Do you know why?
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> *** Of course I do. In fact anyone able to reason ought to: That is
because
> the establishment is not going to give up its rights to the feeding
trough.
> And GoI has been pumping unaccounted for billions to keep that sector on
its
> side. Never mind the rest.  I remember Chittaranjan's assurance that a
> reasoned public dialogue on the need for Assam's sovereignty is not
> impossible in Assam media. But he could not get my posts aired in Assam,
> could he? I also tried, but could not.  The fear of reprisals from the
govt.
> is present and powerful.
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> >>That is how it works in a violent CONFLICT. That is WHY it is a violent
> CONFLICT.
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> Whew! Now that somehow makes us all feel better. Of course, all the people
> of Assam gave the green signal for ULFA to go violent and now it (the
ulfa)
> acts as the sole torch bearer for God & country.
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> *** That was NOT meant to make you feel better Ram. It was to point out
what
> you could not see, even though you it is staring at your face.
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> >One question, if these 'revs' are NOT even able to fight from their home
> base (that they are forced to go >to another country to do so), what odds
do
> you, as a pragmatist, give them for any kind of win?
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> *** I am not a military strategist, unlike say JS, who obviously knows
> better than the Indian military brass
> past and present, who have said over and over again that it is not a
battle
> they can win and that only a political solution will end the conflict.
> Perhaps JS will explain how ULFA can be defeated militarily.  Or how their
> sympathizers should be rounded up and thrown in prison. Maybe that
Congress
> MP who recommended that for those who calls for a referendum, like MR
> Goswami, could explain that --or the need for his vehement back-tracking
> after that. Do you think the ULFA sympathizers were terrified of that
threat
> in Assam ?
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> >One question, if these 'revs' are NOT even able to fight from their home
> base (that they are forced to go >to another country to do so), what odds
do
> you, as a pragmatist, give them for any kind of win?
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> *** I understand your  quandary as I do of those others in your camp. All
> you are reduced to doing is taunting ULFA or ULFA sympathizers, or
mouthing
> off bravado-laden but meaningless slogans.   One would think something is
> missing here. Question is WHAT?  I know the answer, but I will let you
> figure that out by yourself . I like to think you are eminently capable
of.
> And when you do, maybe you will be kind enough to share that with those in
> your camp who are not that well equipped :-).
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> C'da
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> >*** Is this for a fact or a demonstration  of  profound ignorance of
modern
> history?
> >Would you like to explain?
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> Let me try!
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> First of, the ulfa cannot really be considered "revolionaries". A
revolution
> (Like the French etc) are a mass-scale uprising of some sort against an
> establishment. The ulfa (as some would like to elevate) is nowhere close
to
> that lable
> So, in that context, modern revolutions have always been about "protecting
> the masses" against tyrants. In the Assam context, can you give some stark
> examples where such a thing has happened? And yes, C'da why is these
> "home-grown" revoltionaries hell bent on killing and looting from Assamese
> people (and don't forget Dhemaji) - now there was a great example of your
> revolutionaries giving up blood & treasure (of course, it matters little
> that blood spilled was not theirs).
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> > I suspect you and JS intended SOME of the ULFA leaders, didn't you?
> Assuming that  was what  it was, let me ask you this: If it were you, Ram
> >or JS, in the position of those ULFA leaders, what would you do? Play
> STUPID and get arrested or get erased in some  encounter, real or fake? Is
> >this some kind of a question to make the ULFA leaders look  like
'cowards'?
> If it is, do you think it is working?
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> If the 'leaders' were holed up in B'desh and making war plans/strategic
> plans against the big, bad ogre called India, it may have carried some
> semblence of resptability - but to hole up elsewhere, goad/egg other to
the
> battles, and all the while amass huge personal wealth, (as reported by the
> US think tank - Stratfor. com), getting help from BD intel and ISI (who
will
> just as easily slit an Assamese throat as they would an "Indian") is
beyond
> me.
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> So, now this "holing up" in Bangladesh is really a strategic plan - could
> have knocked me out with a feather! How could I have missed that
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> >First off, if 'THEY' were residing in a foreign land, why is it that
India
> and Indians claim
>  >ULFA is fighting in Assam? Isn't that a contradiction?
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> I am just trying here - don't know exactly what JS meant.
>
> Why is this a contradiction - the leaders stay in BD - making the big war
> plans, while the "low-level" cadres do the dirty job in Assam.
>
> >*** Another abjectly dumb question again. These are people fighting and
> dying for a cause.
> >You may not agree with their cause.
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> We have all been hearing about this big cause for a long time. Then why is
> that the whole of Assam have  NOT joined
> and or signed on the dotted line? Do you know why?
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> >That is how it works in a violent CONFLICT. That is WHY it is a violent
> CONFLICT.
>
> Whew! Now that somehow makes us all feel better. Of course, all the people

> of Assam gave the green signal for ULFA to go violent and now it (the
ulfa)
> acts as the sole torch bearer for God & country.
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> One question, if these 'revs' are NOT even able to fight from their home
> base (that they are forced to go to another country to do so), what odds
do
> you, as a pragmatist, give them for any kind of win?
>
> Even the country these people take refuge in (BD) is not able to take on
the
> bad boy on the block (India)  what are the chances for the "revs". Do you
> think perhaps, that there is no fun for them to end this 'insurgency
> Kamadhenu'. Whatever will they do if this all ends - Work for a living?
Good
> grief ! :)
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> --Ram
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> On 5/14/07, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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> Just out of curiosity:
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> >Nowhere in the history of any struggle have the revolutionaries
> killed their own people in one hand and talked of fighting for peace,
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> *** Is this for a fact or a demonstration  of  profound ignorance of
modern
> history? Would you like to explain?
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> >creating economic and social disorder in our state?
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> *** This is another bright question no doubt and someone of my caliber
would
> be hard-pressed to answer. But since you press the point , allow me to
take
> a shot ( pun intended):
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>         First off, if 'THEY' were residing in a foreign land, why is it
that
> India and Indians claim
>         ULFA is fighting in Assam? Isn't that a contradiction?
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>         I suspect you and JS intended SOME of the ULFA leaders, didn't
you?
> Assuming that
>         was what  it was, let me ask you this: If it were you, Ram or JS,
in
> the position of those
>         ULFA leaders, what would you do? Play STUPID and get arrested or
get
> erased in some
>         encounter, real or fake? Is this some kind of a question to make
the
> ULFA leaders look
>         like 'cowards'? If it is, do you think it is working?
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>         If you asked me it is a pretty dumb question, really. And dumber
> expectation.
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> >- They seek whereabouts of missing ULFA members, what about all the
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> >people they have killed. Are they going to give the reasons ?
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> *** Another abjectly dumb question again. These are people fighting and
> dying for a cause. You may not agree with their cause. That is how it
works
> in a violent CONFLICT. That is WHY it is a violent CONFLICT. One side does
> not agree with the other and neither siude is asbout to play dead. Under
the
> circumstances, expecting an antagonist here to play NEUTRAL ( or UNBIASED
to
> echo the favorite kharkhowa/desi terminology) demonstrates an absence of
an
> ability to reason like an adult with ordinary intelligence. But I have
> trouble believing that about JS and I know  you do not fit that mold. So
> what is the explanation Ram?
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> Anyone expecting an answer to questions like that would merely be
> demonstrating their living in denial, unable to accept the widely
prevalent
> and discernible  truths that surround them like so nmany Indians seem to
do.
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> I hate to see you act so disoriented a desi, Ram :-)
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> >Why would anyone  want to go pick a fight with someone who
would  proclaim
> "---
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> There is another way to look at it. Perhaps, one could address this utter
> frustration with ulfa's antics and the 'ulfa did nor wrong' crowd.  The
> recommendations from JS may be strong, but there is a lot of truth in what
> he says about the unstable situation in the state created by ULFA - and
the
> fact that the state (as it is overburdened with other problems) is now
> having face the "insurgency" problem.
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> Why can't ulfa sympathizers answers at least some of the questions like JS

> asks/comments:
>
> Nowhere in the history of any struggle have the revolutionaries
> killed their own people in one hand and talked of fighting for peace,
>
> - Why do they reside in a foreign country, the population of which is
> creating economic and social disorder in our state?
>
> - They seek whereabouts of missing ULFA members, what about all the
> people they have killed. Are they going to give the reasons ?
>
> These and other questions have been asked before  - and we have YET to
> receive prompt, short (no spin) ansers
> So, just Ignoring, the "punishment" as JS demnds  is really NOT a
solution.
> Why can't someone just answer to the questions.
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> On 5/14/07, Chan Mahanta < cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
> >JS has thrown the gauntlet, now its up to them to pick it up :)
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> *** It could be considered such only when there is even a modicum of
> SUBSTANCE or realism behind a charge.  Why would anyone  want to go pick a

> fight with someone who would  proclaim "---The only solution left, I
> believe, is to eliminate every ULFA member and put all their sympathizers
> behind bars. " It would be like challenging an Indian who would put a man
on
> the Moon in 2010; or recommend that all those who do not agree with him be
> banished to 'koliyapani'; wouldn't it?
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> At 11:49 AM -0600 5/14/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> Hehehe C'da,
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> I knew that would catch your attention. What JS says maybe an extreme
> outburst, probably from someone young - but that is how many of the
younger
> generation in Assam feel. What kind of answers do you have for them - or
do
> you think their feelings ought to just brushed aside?
>
> >But, I will really like to see some die-hard sympathizers put JS in >his
> place :) :).
>
> C'da - you are expecting too much out of me.
> JS, right or wrong, has made a stand. Now, the ball is in the other court.

> People like me will sit this out for a while atleast and see what happens.
> At some point, I will come in to defend JS if he needs it - I have a
> feeling, he won't. He has done good so far.
>
> >If audacity and the willingness to vent -- whatever that might be, ?are
all
> it takes to resolve problems of this kind, then there would >have been no
> problem left in Assam , not to mention India.
>
> No, they are not - but on this net, its a rare commodity.
>
> >instead of passing the buck to them despicable ULFA >sympathizers, who
will
> only make the issue more muddy  :-)?
>
> Me? Are they turning to me now? Something is really rotten in Denmark:),
and
> no, I am not passing the buck here - as I ain't no sympathazer. I would
> expect them sympathizers to be up in arms even if they circle the wagons
and
> make it muddier:)
>
> JS has thrown the gauntlet, now its up to them to pick it up :)
>
> --Ram
>
> On 5/14/07, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net > wrote:
> Hi Ram:
>
>
> Saw your comments to Sharma's anguished outburst with his wishful
> recommendations and conclusions.
>
>
> Good that Sharma is letting off steam.  But as an informed and experienced

> NRA, I would have hoped to see you explaining to Sharma the profound flaws
> in his line of thinking, even though I know you are unable to free your
own
> thought processes entirely from a blind devotion to the derelict Indian
> state  :-).
>
>
>
> If audacity and the willingness to vent -- whatever that might be, are all
> it takes to resolve problems of this kind, then there would have been no
> problem left in Assam , not to mention India.
>
>
> So, what is missing?
>
>
>
> Don't you think you, as someone more knowledgeable, and more experienced
> than obviously Sharma is,; have an obligation to help him see things in a
> more mature light; instead of passing the buck to them despicable ULFA
> sympathizers, who will only make the issue more muddy  :-)?
>
>
> c-da
>
>
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>
>
> At 6:04 AM -0600 5/14/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> Welcome JS to the Assamnet. That was a pretty straight forward post, if
> there was one, in these forums in a long time. I welcome that fresh air of
> audacity :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There are a few die-hard ulfa supporters and sympathizers in this forum
too.
>  I am sure some of them will respond to your post, and so will wait to see
> waht they write.
>
> --Ram
>
>
>
> On 5/14/07, Jyotirmoy Sharma < jsharma at iinet.net.au> wrote:
> After reading about the endless sequence of bomb blasts that this
> terrorist outfit is causing throughout Assam I cannot see how a
> sensible person can ever think of negotiating with such a terrorist
> outfit. The only solution left, I believe, is to eliminate every ULFA
> member and put all their sympathizers behind bars. Those living
> abroad and found assisting the outfit in any way should be barred
> from entering Assam.
>
> Nowhere in the history of any struggle have the revolutionaries
> killed their own people in one hand and talked of fighting for peace,
> prosperity and freedom on the other. What is even more surprising is
> that there are groups(read PCPIA and others) who have openly become
> the spokesperson of the outfit. They are never short in condemning
> when the Army kills a terrorist but hardly raise a voice when
> innocent people are getting slaughtered in their bomb blasts. Yes, it
> is true that the Army has killed and tortured innocent people in
> Assam but then the Army wouldn't be there in Assam if we didn't have
> the disease in the first place.
>
> Some questions which a pro-ULFA supporter may care to answer:
>
> - Why do they reside in a foreign country, the population of which is
> creating economic and social disorder in our state?
> - Why don't they fight the Indian Army but hide in their holes when
> confronted? Why do human rights become a big issue when their members
> are killed and not when innocents are getting maimed and killed by
> their bomb attacks at public places?
> - Why do they plant bombs in public places and kill innocent people?
> - They seek whereabouts of missing ULFA members, what about all the
> people they have killed. Are they going to give the reasons ?
>
> This problem has gone on for too long. If Punjab militancy could be
> eliminated I don't see why Assam should be different. Assam is better
> off with the freedom we have under India than under these terrorists
> called ULFA.
>
> Jyotirmoy
>
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