[Assam] End this disease called ULFA
axomiya at yahoo.com
Tue May 15 20:51:35 PDT 2007
Dexh bulile adexh nalage...These people couldnot
distinguish between Oxom full of Miyas and Oxom full
we should institute two awards..Badan Borphukon award
for best traitor award for resident Oxomiya and Baduli
Phukon award for best NRA traitor.
My nominations are obvious..:))
--- SANDIP DUTTA <pseude at yahoo.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Nayanjyoti Medhi <nayanjyoti.medhi at gmail.com>
> To: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>;
> assam at assamnet.org; axomiya at yahoo.com;
> jsharma at iinet.net.au
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:59:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Assam] End this disease called ULFA
> C Da,
> Sorry to butt in like I always do but what Mr.
> Jyotirmoy Sharma has written is something that needs
> to be answered (We never got our answers, although
> we put some relevant question, but let us not get
> distracted from the core issue). As usual, his
> questions will remain in the background and the
> argument will go somewhere else and get personal
> like it always does in this forum. What Vox Populi
> (I am not aware of his/her real nomenclature) has
> put forward as hi/her view is also not far from
> truth (the reasons maybe different though). But the
> fact remains that does the people of Assam deserve
> to be killed by their own kin and kith. Maybe they
> C Da, Is it not time for you to come back to your
> motherland and face the questions put by so and so
> .... head on.
> On 5/15/07, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
> >All you are reduced to doing is taunting ULFA or
> ULFA sympathizers, or mouthing
> >off bravado-laden but meaningless slogans. One
> would think >something is missing here.
> >Yes, that does happen, like it does often with the
> GOI/GOA and India.
> >But, I have often said that if the ulfa or some
> other group was really, really >fighting for a
> cause, and with all sincereity, I would be the first
> one to at >least give them the respect they deserve
> (even if I do not agree with their >cause).
> *** Surely YOUR support or for that matter of others
> in your camp is NOT what ULFA has been surviving all
> these decades. Obviously it is from the support of
> those who you do not see or prefer not to recognize
> when you see them. Thus your definition of ULFA's
> 'sincerity' is quite irrelevant to the resolution of
> the conflict. IF you and others are SEEKING a
> resolution to the conflict, then the question would
> be WHAT are you contributing to its resolution?
> Again IF you believe the arguments that you proffer
> here, a regurgitation of the same old same old, or
> recommendations of JS or the 'wah-wah' from behind
> the bushes from whomever or the taunting of ULFA
> would be bringing the conflict to an end, then I
> have to guess you have something else coming :-).
> BTW, the label was an illustration, to drive home a
> point, to illustrate how it does nothing.
> At 9:57 AM -0600 5/15/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> O' C'da
> Sorry to have you rankled so much - not my
> intention, but some of lousy my traits just slip by.
> The labels revolution, or revolutionary are not
> inventions of JS, me or you. The ULFA and many of
> its sympathizers use these terms whenever they feel
> its good to use them. Even the ulfa "newsletter"
> freely uses it.
> The insurgency they mount is often confused with a
> revoltion by some people. So, that is why it is
> important to separate issues here. We don;t want to
> groups (which don't deserve it) an "aura" status do
> >Imagine me assigning a label on you as, say, an
> Indian patriot
> C'da - is this discussion about me? Didn't realize
> that. But if you feel better,
> you could always label the GOI/Desi-demokracy, and
> anything else (if you haven't already). And if that
> doesn't work, feel free to label me - these days, I
> have grown such a tough skin (like our Rhinos there)
> - nothing seems to stick. :) :)
> >*** What you see as looting, could be presented by
> ULFA as TAXING, tax that the payer does not pay to
> what is fancied to be the 'legitimate' >government.
> What the two-book-keeping entities do not pay to
> GoI, goes to ULFA, who employs those left unemployed
> by India's
> keeps the economy running by buying what it needs to
> feed the soldiers. I hope you read the World Bank
> >report on black-money's corrosive effect on the
> Indian economy. Further more on the looting front,
> how do you see the Indian elected reps' role, >in
> looting the treasury?
> Here, there are a couple of things that tell me my
> edumacation is wrong.
> One is that "tax" is usually levied by an authority
> (government civic body etc). It is so levied, so
> that things that they do with the money collected
> will supposedly help the community as a whole.
> I never knew a tax could also be used to line
> pockets for personal use (and not much else)
> Two. Yes, there are many bureaucrats/babus/ministers
> in the GOI and GOA who will rob th tax-paying public
> blind. But your justification has really caught me
> unawares (to say the least).
> You imply that ulfa collects money from tax-cheats
> who don't pay their share to the GOI.
> It then takes that excess money, employs the
> unemeployed, sends them to battle royal (from
> whence they often don't come back).
> Now, that is something. The GOI, I am sure is also
> glad that the ulfa is helping it keep these
> tax-cheaters in line.
> > Further more on the looting front, how do you see
> the Indian elected reps' role, in looting the
> Very bad, rank bad. So, your solution to this vexing
> corruption problem is what, create another corrupt
> organization to emulate the dregs of GOI? But this
> time, make sure this orgnization is also violent?
> >Had Assam Govt. leaders NOT attempted to prove that
> uLFA had no teeth by putting these children of
> Dhemaji in harms way,
> >in spite of warnings by ULFA not to hold those
> parades, this tragedy could not have happened.
> C'da - I don't know whether to laugh or cry here?
> You are telling us, that since the GOA DID NOT
> follow ULFA's dikats, the children, men and women of
> Assam have to pay the price. After all - what is the
> Govt.? - it is ALSO made up of the kerani, that LP
> school mastor or the corner traffic policeman. These
> people unfortunately also have children. And if alll
> these people and the GOA don't follow them dikats -
> then Offf with their heads?
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